1 00:00:05,990 --> 00:00:03,710 very pleased to be able to 2 00:00:08,870 --> 00:00:06,000 to be here this morning and to tell you 3 00:00:10,549 --> 00:00:08,880 what happened to me at that time 4 00:00:13,970 --> 00:00:10,559 but first I'd like to give you a little 5 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:13,980 background in my life for this thing 6 00:00:18,470 --> 00:00:16,080 happened to me 7 00:00:22,250 --> 00:00:18,480 I grew up was born and grew up in 8 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:22,260 Southeastern Mississippi on the farm 9 00:00:26,750 --> 00:00:25,680 I completed High School there in a small 10 00:00:30,349 --> 00:00:26,760 town 11 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:30,359 and it begun Junior College 12 00:00:34,970 --> 00:00:32,820 but at that time the Korean War had just 13 00:00:37,910 --> 00:00:34,980 started so 14 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:37,920 um being a patriotic citizen I quit 15 00:00:43,610 --> 00:00:40,800 college and uh joined the army and and 16 00:00:45,650 --> 00:00:43,620 spent 20 months and 16 days in combating 17 00:00:48,889 --> 00:00:45,660 career 18 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:48,899 but after receiving a honorable 19 00:00:53,270 --> 00:00:51,120 discharge from the military 20 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:53,280 return home 21 00:00:58,850 --> 00:00:55,680 and 22 00:01:01,910 --> 00:00:58,860 didn't bother my my college education I 23 00:01:04,189 --> 00:01:01,920 had fell in love with a young woman and 24 00:01:06,649 --> 00:01:04,199 surely she became a wife if we've been 25 00:01:10,550 --> 00:01:06,659 together all these years 26 00:01:14,450 --> 00:01:10,560 but anyway I had started work in a large 27 00:01:17,570 --> 00:01:14,460 industry there in Laurel Mississippi 28 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:17,580 not too far from my home and I continued 29 00:01:22,490 --> 00:01:19,920 there for 14 years 30 00:01:24,609 --> 00:01:22,500 working my way up into management 31 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:24,619 and for different reasons the company 32 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:27,119 went under had to took a lot of business 33 00:01:33,530 --> 00:01:30,479 and do much competition in that field 34 00:01:35,690 --> 00:01:33,540 but anyway I moved to 35 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:35,700 my family to the Gulf Coast in 36 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:38,400 Pascagoula Mississippi 37 00:01:42,830 --> 00:01:41,040 um and uh started my career as a 38 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:42,840 shipbuilder 39 00:01:50,050 --> 00:01:45,420 and shortly after a few about five years 40 00:01:55,609 --> 00:01:52,670 a friend of mine 41 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:55,619 his son had come down to that area to go 42 00:01:59,870 --> 00:01:57,600 to work Calvin Parker 43 00:02:02,630 --> 00:01:59,880 and I was a foreman in the shipyard and 44 00:02:06,830 --> 00:02:02,640 he had started to work for me 45 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:06,840 and knowing that I'm back home he grew 46 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:08,640 up with my kids in Jones County before 47 00:02:14,330 --> 00:02:11,760 we come to the to the Gulf Coast but and 48 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:14,340 knowing uh Calvin and him knowing me he 49 00:02:18,229 --> 00:02:16,080 knew that I liked to fish occasionally 50 00:02:21,770 --> 00:02:18,239 so we had planned on a Thursday evening 51 00:02:24,830 --> 00:02:21,780 to go fishing in October 52 00:02:28,970 --> 00:02:24,840 and we have had uh had reached the river 53 00:02:30,830 --> 00:02:28,980 the pascular river and we had fish for a 54 00:02:34,190 --> 00:02:30,840 couple hours after work 55 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:34,200 and it had become dark almost dark 56 00:02:37,490 --> 00:02:36,000 and we were sitting on a pier fishing 57 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:37,500 out into the river 58 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:41,040 and I heard some kind of casinomial 59 00:02:46,130 --> 00:02:42,480 hissing sound like it could have been 60 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:46,140 steam or hair escaping from a pipe and 61 00:02:51,050 --> 00:02:48,780 it's a turnaround from the pier and look 62 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:51,060 something that had come almost to the 63 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:52,680 ground it was over and probably 64 00:02:57,530 --> 00:02:54,959 two foot eighteen inches or two foot 65 00:02:59,690 --> 00:02:57,540 from the ground and and uh 66 00:03:02,150 --> 00:02:59,700 I I assume Calvin had heard the 67 00:03:04,490 --> 00:03:02,160 knowledge at that time he turned him up 68 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:04,500 and there was some kind of door of 69 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:06,480 sliding door I suppose it 70 00:03:09,949 --> 00:03:08,700 came into the the end of The Craft that 71 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:09,959 was part of us 72 00:03:13,250 --> 00:03:11,940 had a very brilliant light came out of 73 00:03:15,290 --> 00:03:13,260 the crack 74 00:03:17,390 --> 00:03:15,300 and I didn't know what to do it startled 75 00:03:18,830 --> 00:03:17,400 me at first I couldn't couldn't uh make 76 00:03:20,449 --> 00:03:18,840 out what it was 77 00:03:22,729 --> 00:03:20,459 and uh 78 00:03:25,190 --> 00:03:22,739 about that time there was three things 79 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:25,200 begin to move into the doorway they came 80 00:03:30,350 --> 00:03:27,840 out to be my flight came right up two of 81 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:30,360 Calvin and myself and one took hold of 82 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:32,879 the shoulder and one of his shoulder and 83 00:03:37,970 --> 00:03:34,560 I seemed to rise up on the ground about 84 00:03:39,890 --> 00:03:37,980 the height they were and we proceeded to 85 00:03:42,229 --> 00:03:39,900 go into the crab 86 00:03:44,690 --> 00:03:42,239 at this time I saw Calvin wanted taken 87 00:03:45,949 --> 00:03:44,700 hold of him and I saw him go limp and I 88 00:03:48,649 --> 00:03:45,959 didn't know at that time but he had 89 00:03:51,170 --> 00:03:48,659 fined it passed off 90 00:03:53,149 --> 00:03:51,180 but anyway they continued to carry me 91 00:03:55,070 --> 00:03:53,159 aboard this craft and as we went in the 92 00:03:56,690 --> 00:03:55,080 doorway into the light and in the room 93 00:03:58,850 --> 00:03:56,700 of compartment 94 00:04:01,430 --> 00:03:58,860 it appeared to me that it was round and 95 00:04:02,509 --> 00:04:01,440 light was flowing from the overhead from 96 00:04:06,410 --> 00:04:02,519 the floor 97 00:04:10,009 --> 00:04:08,270 um it was so bright I couldn't see 98 00:04:12,350 --> 00:04:10,019 anything at that time 99 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:12,360 but we seem to stop about the middle of 100 00:04:17,629 --> 00:04:15,840 the room and they they left me by this 101 00:04:19,310 --> 00:04:17,639 time I couldn't I couldn't do anything 102 00:04:20,990 --> 00:04:19,320 because I couldn't move the only thing I 103 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:21,000 could move was my eyes 104 00:04:24,650 --> 00:04:22,800 and I could tell that they had had 105 00:04:26,810 --> 00:04:24,660 released me but I still wasn't pushing 106 00:04:29,090 --> 00:04:26,820 anything that I could tell 107 00:04:30,290 --> 00:04:29,100 but something in front of me in the wall 108 00:04:32,210 --> 00:04:30,300 in front of me 109 00:04:36,170 --> 00:04:32,220 it's going to come out of the wall it 110 00:04:38,090 --> 00:04:36,180 was probably this big and it appeared to 111 00:04:40,850 --> 00:04:38,100 me that it was a big eye and it moved up 112 00:04:43,790 --> 00:04:40,860 toward my my face and remained there for 113 00:04:46,610 --> 00:04:43,800 possibly a few seconds or a few minutes 114 00:04:48,110 --> 00:04:46,620 and it moved downward and I'm having to 115 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:48,120 assume that it went under me and came up 116 00:04:51,890 --> 00:04:49,680 the backside because the next time I saw 117 00:04:54,110 --> 00:04:51,900 it he come over my head came back in 118 00:04:56,090 --> 00:04:54,120 front of me again remained there for a 119 00:04:59,090 --> 00:04:56,100 few minutes and moved back into the wall 120 00:05:02,030 --> 00:04:59,100 and disappeared into the light 121 00:05:03,409 --> 00:05:02,040 but at that time that was all that I 122 00:05:05,810 --> 00:05:03,419 could see in the room 123 00:05:09,590 --> 00:05:05,820 but several years later after going 124 00:05:11,810 --> 00:05:09,600 under hypnosis regression I could recall 125 00:05:14,689 --> 00:05:11,820 that there was something some type of 126 00:05:16,730 --> 00:05:14,699 window there in that room there was 127 00:05:17,930 --> 00:05:16,740 possibly another compartment that there 128 00:05:20,450 --> 00:05:17,940 was something else in the other 129 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:20,460 compartment here to me 130 00:05:23,930 --> 00:05:21,540 but 131 00:05:26,330 --> 00:05:23,940 these things left me there suspended for 132 00:05:28,850 --> 00:05:26,340 a while and after after a while they 133 00:05:31,909 --> 00:05:28,860 came back and and they took hold of me 134 00:05:34,010 --> 00:05:31,919 and kept me back outside and they didn't 135 00:05:36,409 --> 00:05:34,020 just throw me down they they seemed to 136 00:05:39,529 --> 00:05:36,419 just release me and I fell to the ground 137 00:05:41,210 --> 00:05:39,539 and about this time I saw Calvin he was 138 00:05:42,770 --> 00:05:41,220 standing there by the river in his arms 139 00:05:45,230 --> 00:05:42,780 was outstretched like this and he 140 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:45,240 appeared to me that he was in shop 141 00:05:48,770 --> 00:05:47,039 and I don't know whether he had been 142 00:05:50,510 --> 00:05:48,780 aboard the craft or not but there wasn't 143 00:05:51,529 --> 00:05:50,520 anything with him he was alone at that 144 00:05:54,050 --> 00:05:51,539 time 145 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:54,060 so I was trying to make my way to him 146 00:06:00,050 --> 00:05:57,900 when I fell my Malaysia week in uh after 147 00:06:01,790 --> 00:06:00,060 a while it shortly they began to the 148 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:01,800 feeling began to come back and as I was 149 00:06:05,689 --> 00:06:03,840 trying to get up I was making my way 150 00:06:08,450 --> 00:06:05,699 toward him to see if I could help him 151 00:06:10,730 --> 00:06:08,460 and when I reached him he didn't even 152 00:06:11,570 --> 00:06:10,740 realize who I was he was he was going in 153 00:06:14,090 --> 00:06:11,580 shock 154 00:06:16,430 --> 00:06:14,100 and I had to shake him I even had to 155 00:06:18,830 --> 00:06:16,440 slap him and and scream and holler to 156 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:18,840 get him to realize it that uh you know 157 00:06:22,430 --> 00:06:20,340 that we were all right I thought that 158 00:06:25,249 --> 00:06:22,440 they hadn't done anything any harm to us 159 00:06:28,309 --> 00:06:25,259 uh physically that I could tell 160 00:06:30,950 --> 00:06:28,319 but after a while I got into horror we 161 00:06:31,870 --> 00:06:30,960 could talk and and I assured in that and 162 00:06:35,090 --> 00:06:31,880 uh 163 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:35,100 that we I thought we were okay 164 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:37,319 but meanwhile while this was going on I 165 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:39,120 heard the hissing sound again and as I 166 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:40,800 turned it looked this craft the blue 167 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:42,960 lights was flashing again and it just 168 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:45,360 seemed to disappear when we went up it 169 00:06:50,270 --> 00:06:47,460 moved that fast 170 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:50,280 so after we talked the thing over a 171 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:51,720 little while we decided we wouldn't tell 172 00:06:55,070 --> 00:06:52,800 anyone 173 00:06:57,469 --> 00:06:55,080 we didn't know what it was or what it 174 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:57,479 what it could have been there for 175 00:07:01,249 --> 00:06:59,039 but the more I thought about it I 176 00:07:02,689 --> 00:07:01,259 thought it might be a threat to our 177 00:07:04,969 --> 00:07:02,699 country 178 00:07:08,150 --> 00:07:04,979 so we stopped in a pay phone on the way 179 00:07:10,969 --> 00:07:08,160 home and I called the Keesler Air Force 180 00:07:12,529 --> 00:07:10,979 Base in Biloxi which is only about 30 181 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:12,539 miles from there 182 00:07:22,189 --> 00:07:14,000 and 183 00:07:23,629 --> 00:07:22,199 have to go through the Sheriff's 184 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:23,639 Department 185 00:07:26,809 --> 00:07:25,680 well we talked about that and certainly 186 00:07:27,950 --> 00:07:26,819 we didn't want to go to the Sheriff's 187 00:07:30,890 --> 00:07:27,960 Department we didn't want to be called 188 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:30,900 crazy or nuts in the neighborhood there 189 00:07:35,029 --> 00:07:33,840 but again we talked about it I just 190 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:35,039 couldn't keep it I didn't think I could 191 00:07:39,710 --> 00:07:36,960 keep it to myself it was just it was so 192 00:07:41,770 --> 00:07:39,720 you know something to happen 193 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:41,780 so we called the sheriff's department 194 00:07:47,210 --> 00:07:44,160 and I talked to the sheriff Fred 195 00:07:49,309 --> 00:07:47,220 Diamondback excuse me 196 00:07:50,629 --> 00:07:49,319 and he asked us to remain there that 197 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:50,639 they was saying he would send a couple 198 00:07:55,730 --> 00:07:53,280 of deputies over to talk with us 199 00:07:57,890 --> 00:07:55,740 so after a few minutes they arrived and 200 00:07:59,930 --> 00:07:57,900 I think they at first of all we were 201 00:08:02,450 --> 00:07:59,940 nuts but after they they began to 202 00:08:04,010 --> 00:08:02,460 realize it that you know something had 203 00:08:05,150 --> 00:08:04,020 happened to us they asked us would we 204 00:08:07,070 --> 00:08:05,160 follow them to the Sheriff's Department 205 00:08:08,930 --> 00:08:07,080 to discuss it 206 00:08:11,390 --> 00:08:08,940 so we followed him in our car to the 207 00:08:15,650 --> 00:08:11,400 sheriff's department and after uh 208 00:08:16,309 --> 00:08:15,660 talking with them several hours 209 00:08:17,809 --> 00:08:16,319 um 210 00:08:19,189 --> 00:08:17,819 they were finally convinced that 211 00:08:21,710 --> 00:08:19,199 something did happen 212 00:08:24,110 --> 00:08:21,720 and I think what probably convinced him 213 00:08:25,610 --> 00:08:24,120 that something had happened to us 214 00:08:27,290 --> 00:08:25,620 when we first went in the sheriff's 215 00:08:29,890 --> 00:08:27,300 department they removed Calvin to a room 216 00:08:33,949 --> 00:08:29,900 by himself and a man a room by myself 217 00:08:36,170 --> 00:08:33,959 and uh interrogate us you might say and 218 00:08:39,110 --> 00:08:36,180 later they came back and brought Calvin 219 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:39,120 in the room with me and they went out to 220 00:08:43,550 --> 00:08:41,039 get some coffee and we didn't know they 221 00:08:45,290 --> 00:08:43,560 had left a tape recorder going in a desk 222 00:08:47,269 --> 00:08:45,300 there and they had taped their 223 00:08:48,949 --> 00:08:47,279 conversation and I think you have to 224 00:08:52,610 --> 00:08:48,959 listen to that did they convinced them 225 00:08:55,250 --> 00:08:52,620 to something had happened to us 226 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:55,260 so I asked the sheriff that night that 227 00:08:58,490 --> 00:08:55,920 um 228 00:09:00,710 --> 00:08:58,500 I told him that we didn't we certainly 229 00:09:02,329 --> 00:09:00,720 didn't want any publicity about it that 230 00:09:03,829 --> 00:09:02,339 uh you know I had a position in the 231 00:09:06,170 --> 00:09:03,839 shipyard and I had to be back at work 232 00:09:07,370 --> 00:09:06,180 that morning was almost time to go to 233 00:09:09,050 --> 00:09:07,380 work at that time 234 00:09:11,150 --> 00:09:09,060 but anyway he assured me that there 235 00:09:13,070 --> 00:09:11,160 would be no publicity about it at all 236 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:13,080 and I went home at night or that morning 237 00:09:17,750 --> 00:09:14,700 believing that 238 00:09:19,610 --> 00:09:17,760 and I had reached a shipyard after going 239 00:09:22,490 --> 00:09:19,620 home and having coffee about all the 240 00:09:24,350 --> 00:09:22,500 time I had to do the thing to do but I 241 00:09:26,329 --> 00:09:24,360 went to work that morning and after 242 00:09:28,250 --> 00:09:26,339 reaching the shipyard and I proceeded to 243 00:09:30,590 --> 00:09:28,260 get my people to work and come back to 244 00:09:33,230 --> 00:09:30,600 my office my telephone was ringing 245 00:09:35,690 --> 00:09:33,240 and it was some news media in Jackson 246 00:09:37,550 --> 00:09:35,700 Mississippi wonder what had happened to 247 00:09:39,889 --> 00:09:37,560 Calvin and myself 248 00:09:41,630 --> 00:09:39,899 the night before 249 00:09:44,210 --> 00:09:41,640 so I didn't know what to do I just hung 250 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:44,220 up on him and uh it continued to ring 251 00:09:48,410 --> 00:09:46,800 and and uh someone answered the phone 252 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:48,420 and the sheriff was trying to get us to 253 00:09:51,769 --> 00:09:49,440 come over to the Sheriff's Department 254 00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:51,779 that they were all being mobbed over 255 00:09:56,630 --> 00:09:54,000 there so many people was over there 256 00:09:58,430 --> 00:09:56,640 so it alarmed me I didn't you know I 257 00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:58,440 survived I didn't know what to expect 258 00:10:02,509 --> 00:10:00,720 because I didn't know what happened I 259 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:02,519 didn't know what they were 260 00:10:07,009 --> 00:10:04,320 but anyway 261 00:10:09,949 --> 00:10:07,019 we went over to the Sheriff's Department 262 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:09,959 and they don't know me that we could 263 00:10:12,769 --> 00:10:12,000 have come in contact with radiation or 264 00:10:14,930 --> 00:10:12,779 something 265 00:10:17,210 --> 00:10:14,940 and I called her attention to that and 266 00:10:19,790 --> 00:10:17,220 they cared us to to the singer River 267 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:19,800 Hospital there at Pascagoula to be 268 00:10:24,530 --> 00:10:21,120 checked for radiation they didn't have 269 00:10:26,530 --> 00:10:24,540 the the facilities to do it with 270 00:10:28,730 --> 00:10:26,540 so they called Keesler Air Force Base 271 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:28,740 and they told them to bring us over 272 00:10:32,329 --> 00:10:30,000 there 273 00:10:34,730 --> 00:10:32,339 so I think they were alarmed enough that 274 00:10:37,850 --> 00:10:34,740 when we got there they had MPS that met 275 00:10:40,130 --> 00:10:37,860 us on at the gate and uh they had 276 00:10:42,769 --> 00:10:40,140 evacuated the the area that we were 277 00:10:43,970 --> 00:10:42,779 going into and the area that we were 278 00:10:46,550 --> 00:10:43,980 going to be 279 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:46,560 tested they had protective clothes in 280 00:10:51,290 --> 00:10:48,959 the home so they were a lawn that you 281 00:10:55,009 --> 00:10:51,300 know something had had happened and 282 00:10:58,190 --> 00:10:55,019 afterwards they uh after they had uh did 283 00:11:00,110 --> 00:10:58,200 the examiners for radiation and they 284 00:11:01,910 --> 00:11:00,120 didn't find any they said they thought 285 00:11:03,290 --> 00:11:01,920 they had found a little radiation on 286 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:03,300 Calvin 287 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:06,000 but anyway they uh we went into a 288 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:08,640 meeting with the top brass had keisner 289 00:11:12,350 --> 00:11:09,839 Air Force Base 290 00:11:14,329 --> 00:11:12,360 and uh I could tell in the questions 291 00:11:16,190 --> 00:11:14,339 that they asked us they were quite 292 00:11:17,750 --> 00:11:16,200 concerned that they had asked a lot of 293 00:11:21,050 --> 00:11:17,760 those questions before and probably had 294 00:11:23,569 --> 00:11:21,060 answered similar to those before 295 00:11:27,230 --> 00:11:23,579 so anyway they told us that they would 296 00:11:29,810 --> 00:11:27,240 give us a copy of the meetings of the uh 297 00:11:33,230 --> 00:11:29,820 that we had there and they never did 298 00:11:35,150 --> 00:11:33,240 they I spotted his his uh 299 00:11:38,269 --> 00:11:35,160 classified material 300 00:11:40,550 --> 00:11:38,279 but later on I obtained a copy of it 301 00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:40,560 from a mutual friend from a colonel that 302 00:11:45,290 --> 00:11:43,380 had retired they're at the Air Force 303 00:11:47,329 --> 00:11:45,300 but they were quite concerned keep the 304 00:11:49,550 --> 00:11:47,339 Air Force stays full 305 00:11:52,490 --> 00:11:49,560 but anyway then the newspreter picked up 306 00:11:54,110 --> 00:11:52,500 on it and um it just it went out all 307 00:11:56,509 --> 00:11:54,120 over the world and we didn't we couldn't 308 00:11:58,130 --> 00:11:56,519 get any rest or any sleep three or four 309 00:11:59,329 --> 00:11:58,140 weeks and 310 00:12:01,490 --> 00:11:59,339 um 311 00:12:04,190 --> 00:12:01,500 Calvin a couple of weeks after the end 312 00:12:05,870 --> 00:12:04,200 he had a nervous breakdown he was in the 313 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:05,880 hospital for a couple of weeks 314 00:12:10,430 --> 00:12:08,220 they wouldn't even let me see him for a 315 00:12:10,970 --> 00:12:10,440 long time 316 00:12:13,370 --> 00:12:10,980 um 317 00:12:16,610 --> 00:12:13,380 and he's continued to have nervous 318 00:12:18,350 --> 00:12:16,620 breaks down to his time goes on he can't 319 00:12:20,509 --> 00:12:18,360 seem to get over it 320 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:20,519 but later on in in that year or the 321 00:12:26,329 --> 00:12:24,000 early part of the next year in January 322 00:12:28,910 --> 00:12:26,339 um I'm really an Outdoorsman when I'm 323 00:12:31,130 --> 00:12:28,920 not working I I do a lot of fishing and 324 00:12:34,970 --> 00:12:31,140 a lot of hunting and they happen to be a 325 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:34,980 tree farm there close by my home that to 326 00:12:40,130 --> 00:12:37,740 about 750 acres and I spent a lot of 327 00:12:42,110 --> 00:12:40,140 time on in and hunting and fishing as a 328 00:12:44,449 --> 00:12:42,120 fine stream with a pond there 329 00:12:48,110 --> 00:12:44,459 but I had gone back in there fishing 330 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:48,120 hunting on in January 331 00:12:51,370 --> 00:12:50,290 and I was sitting down under a 332 00:12:56,030 --> 00:12:51,380 [Music] 333 00:12:59,389 --> 00:12:56,040 Pickering a tree or 1200 and 334 00:13:02,389 --> 00:12:59,399 the same craft that Calvin and myself 335 00:13:03,370 --> 00:13:02,399 had seen in Pascagoula came down in an 336 00:13:05,389 --> 00:13:03,380 area 337 00:13:07,550 --> 00:13:05,399 close by me 338 00:13:08,930 --> 00:13:07,560 and up until then I was very frightened 339 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:08,940 I was afraid to go out at night by 340 00:13:11,870 --> 00:13:11,040 myself I didn't know what was going to 341 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:11,880 happen 342 00:13:16,670 --> 00:13:14,700 but they just seen I was sitting down on 343 00:13:19,910 --> 00:13:16,680 the trail just seeing my voice came to 344 00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:19,920 me that do not be afraid that they 345 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:22,079 didn't mean me any harm that they would 346 00:13:28,009 --> 00:13:24,360 be another place or another time 347 00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:28,019 and um it fried me all of a sudden but 348 00:13:33,949 --> 00:13:30,420 then I immediately got up and went 349 00:13:36,290 --> 00:13:33,959 straight home my wife had alarmed it 350 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:36,300 that I didn't continue my my hunting so 351 00:13:41,389 --> 00:13:38,639 I told her what happened but all the 352 00:13:43,550 --> 00:13:41,399 fear was gone that uh that these things 353 00:13:44,750 --> 00:13:43,560 didn't mean us any harm that that I 354 00:13:46,250 --> 00:13:44,760 thought in the future I would get to 355 00:13:48,650 --> 00:13:46,260 meet them 356 00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:48,660 and in the May of that same year in 357 00:13:53,629 --> 00:13:50,040 Mother's Day 358 00:13:56,269 --> 00:13:53,639 we had gone up to my My Father's Farm up 359 00:14:00,590 --> 00:13:58,610 got further up in Mississippi to spend a 360 00:14:02,990 --> 00:14:00,600 day with my mother and we were coming 361 00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:03,000 home late at night my wife and myself 362 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:08,220 and and uh three of our children and 363 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:10,800 we had a terrible experience if we were 364 00:14:14,030 --> 00:14:12,240 they thought it was terrible we were 365 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:14,040 coming in a 366 00:14:18,170 --> 00:14:16,200 area that was not very populated at 367 00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:18,180 wooded area off of the main highway 368 00:14:21,949 --> 00:14:19,920 coming home 369 00:14:24,590 --> 00:14:21,959 and they was a light it kept following 370 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:24,600 us and later on it came around in front 371 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:25,680 of the car 372 00:14:28,970 --> 00:14:26,880 and 373 00:14:32,930 --> 00:14:28,980 come down was coming down in the road to 374 00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:32,940 land and and uh when my wife saw it she 375 00:14:38,050 --> 00:14:34,800 she just became hysterical 376 00:14:41,150 --> 00:14:38,060 and uh my youngest daughter at that time 377 00:14:42,290 --> 00:14:41,160 she was a baby in fact she graduated 378 00:14:44,210 --> 00:14:42,300 from high school this year she came 379 00:14:46,129 --> 00:14:44,220 along late in life but anyway she was 380 00:14:48,769 --> 00:14:46,139 quite young and she was asleep and it 381 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:48,779 alarmed her and she had awakened and was 382 00:14:53,870 --> 00:14:51,360 screaming my wife was screaming but this 383 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:53,880 crab moved back up to the end into the 384 00:14:58,970 --> 00:14:56,160 sky and moved around to the to our right 385 00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:58,980 and moved out into a field and came down 386 00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:01,440 and lit the entire area up and had 387 00:15:03,889 --> 00:15:02,760 rolled lights all the way around the 388 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:03,899 craft 389 00:15:07,610 --> 00:15:05,880 Well we'd stopped the car with that time 390 00:15:10,250 --> 00:15:07,620 and and I was trying to get out of the 391 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:10,260 car I knew it was my time to meet him 392 00:15:13,610 --> 00:15:11,760 and 393 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:13,620 before I could get out of the car my 394 00:15:17,629 --> 00:15:15,120 wife was screaming and my youngest son 395 00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:17,639 and and she held me it wouldn't let me 396 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:19,199 out of the car 397 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:22,560 so then the voice came to me again you 398 00:15:26,269 --> 00:15:24,480 know this is not the time 399 00:15:27,650 --> 00:15:26,279 it'll be another time 400 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:27,660 and 401 00:15:33,650 --> 00:15:30,240 we left my wife became so hysterical 402 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:33,660 that we left and we I could see looking 403 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:36,000 back that the crab was still there if 404 00:15:40,009 --> 00:15:37,920 Auburn when we left it was a lot larger 405 00:15:41,449 --> 00:15:40,019 crab than what Calvin and myself had 406 00:15:43,970 --> 00:15:41,459 seen 407 00:15:45,710 --> 00:15:43,980 but anyway they wanted to uh someone 408 00:15:47,930 --> 00:15:45,720 wanted me to call the key to the airport 409 00:15:49,430 --> 00:15:47,940 they but I said there's no use there's 410 00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:49,440 no use of notifying anyone there's 411 00:15:55,970 --> 00:15:51,839 nothing anyone can do it's something I 412 00:15:58,490 --> 00:15:55,980 have to to handle myself 413 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:58,500 so we didn't tell anyone about this over 414 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:00,240 a period of years 415 00:16:04,189 --> 00:16:02,639 and I 416 00:16:06,230 --> 00:16:04,199 know a lot of things that I can't talk 417 00:16:08,689 --> 00:16:06,240 about it's kind of personal that we've 418 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:08,699 had other encounters since then it's 419 00:16:12,889 --> 00:16:10,500 come to a point now that the tree farm 420 00:16:14,569 --> 00:16:12,899 that I had mentioned 421 00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:14,579 um there's very few people that goes 422 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:15,839 into that area 423 00:16:19,310 --> 00:16:17,160 and 424 00:16:21,050 --> 00:16:19,320 when I've been there many times I go 425 00:16:24,290 --> 00:16:21,060 there many times now 426 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:24,300 and that's where these things contact me 427 00:16:28,430 --> 00:16:26,220 I have a feeling that I have to go there 428 00:16:29,150 --> 00:16:28,440 when I go there 429 00:16:36,170 --> 00:16:29,160 um 430 00:16:38,509 --> 00:16:36,180 and they have obtained a beautiful 431 00:16:42,290 --> 00:16:38,519 picture to me that what a world could be 432 00:16:44,329 --> 00:16:42,300 without pollution 433 00:16:47,509 --> 00:16:44,339 um that we're we were on the verge of 434 00:16:48,650 --> 00:16:47,519 destroying ourselves nuclear hydrogen 435 00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:48,660 energy 436 00:16:53,930 --> 00:16:52,079 and they would if we didn't stop this it 437 00:16:56,389 --> 00:16:53,940 just wasn't stopped or something wasn't 438 00:16:58,430 --> 00:16:56,399 done about our environment that we would 439 00:17:00,769 --> 00:16:58,440 be could be to start again 440 00:17:02,810 --> 00:17:00,779 but I think now that 441 00:17:05,689 --> 00:17:02,820 um it seems that there is being 442 00:17:08,510 --> 00:17:05,699 something done we notice the threat of a 443 00:17:10,669 --> 00:17:08,520 nuclear hydrogen energy is beginning to 444 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:10,679 fade a little bit communism is going 445 00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:11,760 away 446 00:17:15,409 --> 00:17:13,919 but people are taking more interest in 447 00:17:17,169 --> 00:17:15,419 our environment in the pollution that 448 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:17,179 we're putting in the air 449 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:20,880 excuse me I'm just a little bit hoarse 450 00:17:25,309 --> 00:17:23,760 but I think we do we are going to see a 451 00:17:27,890 --> 00:17:25,319 world change that 452 00:17:31,610 --> 00:17:27,900 that uh we're going to find answers to 453 00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:31,620 our pollution of our environment 454 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:34,080 I think the threat of nuclear and 455 00:17:39,650 --> 00:17:36,480 hydrogen energy will go away 456 00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:39,660 these things have told me that 457 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:41,460 this is something that's way out I mean 458 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:43,200 it's hard it's hard for me to stand 459 00:17:47,630 --> 00:17:45,360 before you and tell you this 460 00:17:51,289 --> 00:17:47,640 is something I've kept it myself for a 461 00:17:55,130 --> 00:17:53,330 but there's an energy out there that we 462 00:17:57,130 --> 00:17:55,140 haven't discovered yet 463 00:17:59,870 --> 00:17:57,140 it's an energy that 464 00:18:01,549 --> 00:17:59,880 for instance the movement of the planets 465 00:18:03,529 --> 00:18:01,559 in our universe and our solar system 466 00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:03,539 there's an energy that moves these 467 00:18:07,370 --> 00:18:04,860 planets 468 00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:07,380 I think they've learned how to tap this 469 00:18:10,909 --> 00:18:09,360 energy it's it's something that's there 470 00:18:14,990 --> 00:18:10,919 it's free 471 00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:15,000 and I think in the days uh to come in in 472 00:18:20,210 --> 00:18:17,700 the very near future that we're going to 473 00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:20,220 tap into some energy that it's going to 474 00:18:24,590 --> 00:18:22,140 make everything else obviously I think 475 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:24,600 we're going to see a much better and a 476 00:18:30,049 --> 00:18:27,840 more beautiful world to live in 477 00:18:32,750 --> 00:18:30,059 and also I like to say while I'm talking 478 00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:32,760 with you that me and reared a hardship 479 00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:34,559 of Baptist in in South Central 480 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:36,799 Mississippi 481 00:18:41,570 --> 00:18:39,600 we only simply lived in our own little 482 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:41,580 world I didn't believe or even think 483 00:18:46,010 --> 00:18:43,440 about these things until this happened 484 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:46,020 to me in Pascagoula Mississippi 485 00:18:49,850 --> 00:18:47,760 I certainly didn't believe in 486 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:49,860 reincarnation but I believe in 487 00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:51,600 reincarnation now 488 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:54,059 I think I've lived before and to live 489 00:19:02,210 --> 00:18:59,570 um I think as well as we've it's been 490 00:19:04,490 --> 00:19:02,220 destroyed several times our 491 00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,500 civilizations has been destroyed and was 492 00:19:09,770 --> 00:19:06,720 on the verge of being destroyed again 493 00:19:12,830 --> 00:19:09,780 but I think we're going to make it now 494 00:19:14,450 --> 00:19:12,840 on what I can the only indications that 495 00:19:16,010 --> 00:19:14,460 I have 496 00:19:18,529 --> 00:19:16,020 but um 497 00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:18,539 it's something that has really uh I've 498 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:21,480 not a religious fanatic I've never help 499 00:19:27,789 --> 00:19:24,480 and I certainly believe in in God and I 500 00:19:31,070 --> 00:19:27,799 think that God in all of his greatness 501 00:19:32,930 --> 00:19:31,080 didn't only create this little wallet 502 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:32,940 here he created all those worlds out 503 00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:35,340 there in this universe and the ones 504 00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:37,500 Beyond there's no end to it it's a 505 00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:38,820 revolving thing 506 00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:46,669 planted here 507 00:19:51,230 --> 00:19:48,660 that's something that's greater than we 508 00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:51,240 are that come under the jurisdiction of 509 00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:52,679 God 510 00:19:58,669 --> 00:19:55,260 has us here as an experiment where 511 00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:58,679 direct we're indirectly from God 512 00:20:03,230 --> 00:20:01,440 and I believe that maybe the experiment 513 00:20:06,169 --> 00:20:03,240 might work this time 514 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:09,590 so I'm gonna I'd like to leave you with 515 00:20:14,270 --> 00:20:12,000 that and but I'm open to any questions 516 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,280 anyone anyone might ask 517 00:20:19,370 --> 00:20:16,799 but um I will I would like to say this 518 00:20:23,210 --> 00:20:19,380 that uh 519 00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:23,220 it's made me a lot better man than I was 520 00:20:29,390 --> 00:20:27,360 back before 1973 to know that there are 521 00:20:31,250 --> 00:20:29,400 life out there and there's a good 522 00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:31,260 possibility that their life is going to 523 00:20:35,810 --> 00:20:32,940 help us